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This founder built an agent that's going to find you users 24/7, and he believes we already achieved AGI.

Interview with Yan Balau, Co-Founder at Outify

4 min read

About

Meet Yan Balau

Wircle

Tell us a few words about you

Yan Balau

Hey, I'm Yan, I've worked as a GTM engineer, I've built multiple projects that didn't work, and now I'm building Outify, to help founders like me find new customers easier.

Wircle

What are you (or your company) building?

Yan Balau

We're building an outreach agent that works 24/7 without human interaction.

Wircle

What problem are you solving?

Yan Balau

Outreach is hard, especially for new startups, and we're making it easier with an agent that pursues potential customers until the deal closes.

Wircle

Tell us everything we should know about your company.

Yan Balau

Outify is the result of our own struggles doing outreach for multiple products that we've built before. All the companies are shouting big claims about using AI in outreach, everyone's releasing an AI SDR, GTM agents, and so on, but we've yet to find an agent or AI system working well, autonomously. Most of the products in the market are the same old useless outreach products with a bit of AI on top. We're building something that's missing, something that hopefully will help a lot of founders that were in the same position as we. Our agent is handling all the steps in the outreach flow, starting with sourcing the leads and finding the right people to pursue, until actually closing the deal. The agent is assisting our users during the sales process by suggesting angles, messages, ideas, etc., It's a strategic agent that knows when to pause and wait for the right outreach moment, something that no one in the market does, which makes it very effective, since it's reaching the right people at the right time, which is the key to running successful outreach campaigns.

The Future

Predictions about what comes next

Wircle

Overall, how do you feel about the future of AI?

Yan Balau

Very optimistic

I can't tell exactly where the AI is going, and what it's going to become, but I think we haven't even hit 5% of what it can do, and we haven't even hit 1% of using it in all the industries where it matters. We're using AI to build B2B SaaS companies, but not in medicine, climate, social sciences, space, exploration, chemistry, etc., - all those fields are still waiting for the moment the AI is going to disrupt them. That's when we'll hit real progress.

Wircle

Will big AI companies swallow smaller companies and monopolize software?

Yan Balau

No

I think they'll swallow a lot of different companies but I don't think they'll have a monopoly. I think we'll have a wave of new companies doing things so diverse that it won't be possible for the big players to swallow everyone.

Wircle

Which companies will win the AI race?

Yan Balau

AppleOpenAIGoogleMetaxAI / SpaceX

I think Apple is secretly working on a lot of cool AI projects, and they'll be amazing once they step in. Google has a huge pool talent and proprietary data, and I think they'll manage to come up with powerful AI systems as well. Meta is hungry and Mark is pushing hard in this direction, I believe in him. XAI obviously have their own advantages, especially because of SpaceX.

Wircle

When will we achieve AGI?

Yan Balau

2026

I think we already achieved AGI and we're already interacting with it every day. The AI systems we're talking to every day are not just predicting the next tokens, they "understand" the questions they're getting and they're responding with intelligent responses.

Wircle

What will become more valuable as AI becomes more capable?

Yan Balau

TrustDistributionProprietary data

Trust is going to be important for sure, especially when it comes to information, videos, photos, etc., - we'll need to trust that what we see is real and it's not AI generated. Proprietary data is important obviously, since by definition it's something that only you have, and so it becomes even more valuable in a world where more and more things can be replicated increasingly easier. Distribution of course is even more valuable as before because you'll have way more competition, since the barrier to entry is much lower, and a lot of companies will be able to easily replicate most of the things you'll build. This is why I think distribution is even more important as before.

Wircle

What will happen to work?

Yan Balau

New kinds of jobs will emergeMost jobs will change

I think that we'll keep working and work is not going anywhere, but we're going to have new kinds of jobs, and the existing jobs will be changed by the AI - in a good way.

Wircle

Will money disappear?

Yan Balau

No

I don't see it disappearing anytime soon - maybe on Mars if we can colonize at some point, but not on earth.

Wircle

Will software engineers disappear?

Yan Balau

No

No, but the profession will change (it already has), and it's going to become a bit different, but it won't disappear for sure.

Wircle

What’s one strong opinion you have about the future?

Yan Balau

I believe it will be better than the past and the present, I am 99% sure about this, I believe in humanity.

Founder Toolkit

The products behind the work

Wircle

Which coding agents do you use?

Yan Balau

Codex

Wircle

Which AI assistants or LLMs do you use for chatting?

Yan Balau

ChatGPTPerplexity

Wircle

What’s one product more people should know about—and why?

Yan Balau

Honestly, Render.com - it's very easy to deploy your projects on it, both the frontend, and the backend, the pricing is ok, and everything is working smoothly.

Wircle

What’s one tool or product you couldn’t do your best work without—and why?

Yan Balau

I'd probably say Codex at this point, since it's the software we're using the most, to build Outify.

Networking

Connections worth making

Wircle

Who would you like to meet through Wircle?

Yan Balau

I'd like to meet fellow founders, building any kind of products.

Wircle

What can you help other founders and professionals with?

Yan Balau

Happy to share outreach ideas and advice.

Advice

Advice for first-time founders

Wircle

What’s one advice you have for first-time startup founders?

Yan Balau

Never give up, keep moving forward, try new things, stay true to your beliefs, and don't forget to get some sunlight!

Final word

Anything else

Wircle

Is there anything else you’d like readers to know?

Yan Balau

Happy to help founders find new customers - drop me a DM to set up your Deal Chaser agent that's going to find customers 24/7 for you.